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October 05, 2011


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Susan @ A Slice of my Life

Wow, I had no idea. Now I'm wondering how many other drugs aren't being made for lack of high profits. Scary stuff. I've never had an issue with Obamacare.

Feel better soon!


Hope you feel better very soon, and, yes, this aspect of the free market is horrific.

gary rith

Conservatives hate gov't until they realize how it affects their life, like in this case, also you hear that in Alabama and other places anti-immigration laws mean that some harvests are rotting in the ground and here in NY state, all those country teabaggers suddenly found themselves flooded under 2 horrible hurricanes and the only help out there is from the gov't. Why does every generation have to be reminded of this? I think partly the schools are bad, and a lot of kids are not studying too hard. Anyway, please feel better.


Oh, Jenn, how I love the way you think and write. And I hope you feel better soon!

green girl in wisconsin

I laugh when I hear "free market" because it is and it isn't--it's only free when someone with enough lobbying pull and money is profiting. As this exemplifies.
I hope you're feeling back to your usual self soon--amazing how being sick can clog up EVERYTHING.


Up here in Canuck land, there was a local boy suffering from a fairly rare, fatal blood disease. There's a treatment, but it costs $500,000 a YEAR to treat. He'll need that drug for the rest of his life. The reason for the cost? Because it's so rare, it's what the drug company decided to charge in order to recoup their research costs. You can imagine how many health plans won't cover that treatment. So, the boy was told by everyone, including the provincial government, "Sorry, we know we can save your life, but we're not going to cover the costs, so go ahead and die." Not in so many words, but, you know, same idea in so many words.

Finally, a persistent radio campaign spearheaded by one morning host got the gov't to agree to fund his treatment. How magnanimous of the drug company and gov't alike, eh?


I think poor education has a lot to do with the way people misunderstand why a country (or community) benefits from things like representative government, business regulation, and taxes.

If I think too long about the state of public education in the U.S. it really depresses me.


Yeah. So friggin' wrong. Similar stories have been in the Times, as well.

Feel better.


When the coprorations are not regulated they will charge what "the market will bear" rather than a reasonable amount for a profit. They are not actually concerned with the public good or about their customers - just their own profit. The millions they spend on advertising to suggest otherwise could go to reducing the costs of the products making them more accessible.

Just look at the lack of a malaria vaccine or the fact that they could help reduce the death and suffering from AIDS around the world if they made the drugs available at cost. But no - the right champions their right to make obscene profit year in and year out. Now that it is causing a problem in the US, perhaps they will wake up and put pressure on the drug companies.

Ann in NJ

You need a "like" button! I just had a similar conversation with my GYN the other day - by removing regulation from insurance companies and allowing them to be "for-profit", we've created a terrible conflict of interest. Everything is about maximizing value for the shareholder, both in medical and other companies. And when did this start? When we removed regulations in the name of the "free" market. You get what you ask for, I guess.


Amen, sister. Amen. I love it when people think that companies can regulate themselves. Suuuurrreee they can. :\

Grown Up Girl

This actually ties in very well to some of the even scarier aspects of non-regulated medication management... antibiotics. What percentage of Americans have used antibiotics at some point... almost everyone, right? Perhaps when you were a child, you received penicillin VK. Then came amoxicillin, because penicillin wasn't quite doing it anymore. Nowadays it's very common to see Augmentin, because bacteria have figured out how to get around their class predecessors. And I don't mean "scary" bacteria, I mean your everyday staph, strep, and e coli... the stuff that's on every surface of your house. It's not because antibiotics become inherently better overtime (or not primarily because), it's because bacteria are evolving creatures that continually find ways around the drugs we throw at them. This means that any antibiotic that is developed has a time limit on it... a few years or decades until its effectiveness is gone. This doesn't entice drug companies into development of new antibiotics very well, so what is already a tough battle is going to become tougher without added incentive for research. There are Orphan Drug Laws in place for rare diseases... which infections are not. So what's going to happen? Of course, this could all be aided by proper prescription habits and by patients actually taking their medication as directed, but that's a different topic. Humans are their own worst enemy.


Whoa. That is bad.

suburbancorrespondent, who isn't exactly technologically savvy but still wants her a trackpad

I'm confused - why isn't some other company manufacturing a generic? Sounds like there is enough demand...

Busy Bee Suz

Oh. NOT good. I had no idea....

She Curmudgeon

They're really out of control. I used to know about vaccines, which I thought were mandated in terms of production as well as lawsuits. That would be a model that could work... Oy.


This exact thing happened to my aunt's anti-depression medication, which she had been taking for many years and worked fine (I'm a Brit but my aunt is from the USA). The company simply stopped making it. The only option the doctors had was to try and get as close to the formulation as they could, with a combo of other drugs. They didn't work, and if they did work there were serious side-effects. She had to be 'sectioned' (not sure if the term is the same but it basically means the authorities put you in an institution and make you stay there) several times, and the situation became extremely worrying with her eventually being on suicide watch as a direct result of her medication no longer being in production. It is still not resolved after more than three years though it is better than it was at the worst point.

So I totally hear you and it is outrageous. This is the kind of thing that makes me bend down on my knees and praise lard for the National Health Service in the UK. The Death Panel stuff coming out of the mouths of some politicians in the USA is deeply insulting to my country. No, it's not a perfect system and there are problems, but the USA's system looks a great deal more fucked up than the UK's from where I stand and yet certain US politicians speak as though my country is in the dark ages.

Hope you feel better soon.

Karen (formerly kcinnova)

I can't even begin to share my anger of this situation.
You've said it well, as have your other commenters.

Hope you feel better soon, Jenn!


Amen corner here too! Going through this in a different way w/ my MIL. She needs one particular drug but MUST fill a script for 2 others which are optional EVERY month of treatment in order for it to be covered. Covered by the idiotic insurance ...yes, but those symptom specific other refills could be used for someone else since she has not needed them. Instead they sit in the cupboard unused. That doesn't make any sense either. Why doesn't this country wise up and take INSURANCE companies out of the healthcare equation? Then maybe the profit margin wouldn't dictate patient care. Just my opinion however...

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There's a treatment, but it costs $500,000 a YEAR to treat. He'll need that drug for the rest of his life. The reason for the cost? Because it's so rare, it's what the drug company decided to charge in order to recoup their research costs.

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